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Author Topic: Chebby Cobalt... an eye on tomorrow and a well screwed together little econo box  (Read 2905 times)

Jake

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Well, I 'yam' seriously considering one as GM is giving the things away, the 2.2 liter and 2.4 liter motors are really well thought out. I have done a lotta research as well as look a lot at my new buddy at the Spring Hill car shoe, Joey, who allways parks next to my car.....anyhow heres what I see

the engine bay is well shrouded;



Unshrouding gives us some details;



Notice the waaay looong intake runner, good sized tho'



Thing is these cars deliver verry decent mileage, good performance , right at what a stock 95-96 T Bird would do at the track, and my fat butt fits comfortably! I would say Chebby got this one right!
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Notice the waaay looong intake runner, good sized tho'


Already planning mods eh?   :o

..and my fat butt fits comfortably!

Important.  How is the head room for us taller people??  ::)
The 5.4 swap has been called a bad idea, and considered an underpowered considerable waste of time, since 2007.

Nice to see that most donít think that anymore.
Bondfreak13 07/28/09 09:05 PM

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Important.  How is the head room for us taller people??  ::)




Well, MillerI didnt know that they piled it all that high :-\ ;) However it seemed good, but I just behave and have the posture of someone taller, LOL. The car shown was a base coupe (really cheap) no power seats with a height adjust, so probably a decent seating arrangement for all but the tallest with the power seats, go figure, but a good point, none the less.
'95 T-Bird 5.4L blower and sum stuff
13.6sec 1/4 mi, 300RW at 5250 RPM
GVW 4340 lbs, go figure!


 
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THAT BAD BOY MOTOR WAS HOPPED UP AND PUT IN STREAMLINER BODY AND TURNED 220+ AT BONNEVILLE CHECK IT OUT O0
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I think youre talking about the old "quad four'' , built by Bob Fueling?? that thing had the same bore/stroke, and valve count but was fabbed ground up for extreme flow. Oldsmobile started it. The new motor is called an ''Eco- tek'', is 2.2 liters, and a improved outgrowth of the quad four... makes 148 hp outa the box. also avail as a 2.4 L with 171 hp outa the box, (in the SS version)and both over 1 hp per cu. in. theres also a 2.0 L supercharged version of it, (also SS)but I dont like that due the roots type blower(too much heat, parasitic loss, and too much boost too soon on a teeny motor). I think a centi with the 2.4L would be a better way to go really fast, and buzz around town with less drama, more durability. In absence of the  blower , maybe a little p&p, exhaust clean up, and some other minor tweaking would make it a lot of fun....
'95 T-Bird 5.4L blower and sum stuff
13.6sec 1/4 mi, 300RW at 5250 RPM
GVW 4340 lbs, go figure!


 
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With one of them you can get a cool spoiler!!



Wide body kit...


Lots of stuff at http://www.gravanatuning.com/
The 5.4 swap has been called a bad idea, and considered an underpowered considerable waste of time, since 2007.

Nice to see that most donít think that anymore.
Bondfreak13 07/28/09 09:05 PM

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Well :jake: I just returned a cobalt to enterprise today if I where you I would definitely rent one and drive it for a weekend it was not the best car for heavy guys to get in and out of. I had them give me an up grade till the Expy is fixed. Having the bumper fixed from the accident.
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Well :larry: I just returned a cobalt to enterprise today if I where you I would definitely rent one and drive it for a weekend it was not the best car for heavy guys to get in and out of. I had them give me an up grade till the Expy is fixed. Having the bumper fixed from the accident.

A darn site easier than the Birdie to mount/unmount IMHO, but maybe thats just me... My Rt. knee is kinda jammed and doesnt bend all the way, so for some reason the cobalt is easier for me??
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GVW 4340 lbs, go figure!


 
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SORRY :jake: BUT YOUR WRONG THIS TIME :-[ JUST GO THE THE BONNIEVILLE WEB SITE O0 LOOK UP CHEVY COBALT YOU WILL FIND MORE ;D
LETS GO CRUISING!!!!

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Important.  How is the head room for us taller people??  ::)

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Oh I forgot to mention the mark going across my head from my right temple and ear from cracking my head on the door jam it sucks if you 6 foot tall and 3 foot wide to get in and out of the Cobalt.
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Blah!!  I have been hitting me head on the Escort all winter.  I am thinking about getting a new beater next year... :(
The 5.4 swap has been called a bad idea, and considered an underpowered considerable waste of time, since 2007.

Nice to see that most donít think that anymore.
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SORRY :larry: BUT YOUR WRONG THIS TIME :-[ JUST GO THE THE BONNIEVILLE WEB SITE O0 LOOK UP CHEVY COBALT YOU WILL FIND MORE ;D

Wrong? nope I dont think so :
1.The Oldsmobile quad four was the precursor of the current echotech engine used in the cobalt.
2. the quad four was an exclusive with Oldsmobile in their cutlass, originally.
3. Bob fueling actually built the engines that they used to establish many world records for speed and endurance. Thing is other than bore, stroke, and piston spacing, there was little similarity to the stock OLDS... the valves were also the same size, and spacing, but the rest of the valve train was in no way like the OLDS, but they perpetrated the myth that it was a specially prepped 'stock engine' (yeah from the ground up with a machined block no way resembling the cast piece, go figure)....
4.The speed record for the displacement 2.3L was accomplished with a streamliner and highly touted as was the top speed records for the cutlasses  at bonneville as well as a worlds record for endurance where they ran a closed circuit at high speed for somewhere about  a week or so at some rediculous speeds to claim the fastest and longest run in history. Thereby claiming the speed and endurance records for worlds fastest endurance cars or some such BS.
5. Fueling himself drove a specially prepped Olds Cutlass  Quad four one way at Bonneville , at 284 mph which is  / was quite respectable.
6. see the article in the link below. It doesnt tell the whole story , and doesnt deviate from the stock block myth, but does show the origins of the GM echotech engine. Wrong? nope , just older, with a darned good memory , LOL
http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10308
 
The echo tech is a good engine, can go fast, and  has a very strong heritage to lean on from Oldsmobile. Thing is its grand pappy was faster on the cutlass. I dont question the 220 mph, at Bonniville, but Olds was there first, faster, and even if they cheated a bit, the results were so spectacular that  I had made a study of Bob fueling way back when, and to this day he is the wizard of the flow bench, and real high performance innovations. his formal training was in the Navy, go figure. ;) he now has his own consulting company and does quite well telling the boys at Yokohama, Munich , Detroit and elsewhere what they are doing wrong and how to make things better.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2007, 11:21:48 PM by Jake »
'95 T-Bird 5.4L blower and sum stuff
13.6sec 1/4 mi, 300RW at 5250 RPM
GVW 4340 lbs, go figure!


 
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